As of today, all the 128k mp3s on Magnatune end with a computer voice saying:
"That was track number 5 from the album "album name" by "artist" from magnatune.com"
This change can be heard anywhere Magnatune is heard for free, namely:
1) as playlists on the web site,
2) on the shoutcast radio stations. As part of this change, I've removed all the every-3-songs musician's advertisement that previously appeared on the shoutcast radio stations.
3) and from other web sites such as webjay.com and iRate, which point users directly to the mp3s on our web site.
And obviously, the computer voice only appears on the free previews. There is no computer voice on any purchased music.
Why the change?
1) in many places where our music is heard, the player doesn't show what's playing. This includes realplayer, windows media player and (until recently) itunes radio.
2) I get many emails weekly asking "what were you playing on tuesday around 11 am?" Clearly, if people are constantly asking us what they were listening to in order to buy it, what magnatune was doing to indicate what was playing wasn't working very well.
3) itunes imports the playlist files from magnatune directly into a user's library, mixing from-your-hard-drive music with on-the-internet-music without distinction, as if you bought it. The net result is that many people have a huge collection of music in their itunes library which they play all the time, which is unpaid for, and which the user doesn't even realize isn't on their hard drive. This eats up a lot of bandwidth and is not perceived as try-before-you-buy since the user usually doesn't notice the difference.
4) the original intention of the free mp3 previews was "try before you buy". Unfortunately, I am aware that many users listen to Magnatune music on a regular basis, many of whom rarely--if ever--buy anything. While I would love to be able to support this, frankly, magnatune can't afford it. It doesn't support Magnatune and, worse, it doesn't support the musicians. The complete tracks are still available for free preview, but the computer voice hopefully will encourage people to buy the real albums, much like the nag reminder in shareware. The idea behind Magnatune is still to have you listen all you want, in order to find music you love and to make a fully informed purchase.
I've heard some complaints that the computerized speech program mispronounces things. Depending on the genre of music, this can be more or less severe (classical isn't so good, but rock is generally pretty good). In fact, the voice quality seems to be the main complaint of the change. I'm going to give the current voice a little more time to "settle in" and see how people feel about it, and if it's still a problem for many people, I'll put the work in to have human beings read the description instead.
For those of you who listen and frequently buy from us, I thank you and hope that the 5 second "what you just heard" is helpful and not too distracting. I really dislike DRM, and think this is a much better solution than what other music web sites do.
-john
Yop. Cool solution.
We can still hear the complete song. Often on radio, I have exaclty the same reaction: "where did that song come from?". Fortunately they now publish the playlists for every hour. However, I think this solution is much better, since this way you're quite sure of what you heard.
Posted by: rams | October 28, 2005 at 05:14 AM
I think it is a great idea to hear the artist and album. It makes it easier to remember music that I want to buy. However, that voice is INCREDIBLY irritating! I find myself not wanting to listen after a while, (it mispronounces sonata for crying out loud). I also often have difficulty understanding what it is saying, and if I can't hear the name of the artist, then it kinda takes away the benefit of having the voice in the first place.
Posted by: | October 28, 2005 at 07:31 AM
I think we're resolved to replace the computer voice with a human speaking voice, but it'll take a few weeks for us to get that together (it's a lot of work) so for the time being it's the computer voice. I agree that certain words, especially non-english ones like sonata, are pronounced very badly.
Posted by: John Buckman | October 28, 2005 at 11:02 AM
It sounds like the labels are stitched together from independant audio samples, and don't flow properly because of that.
I think you should get musicians who want to to announce their own tracks. Or get The Bots to announce them all; it might be fine with just a better computer voice.
Posted by: Daniel Barkalow | October 28, 2005 at 12:55 PM
The interruption between songs is incredibly distracting, almost as bad as a commercial. An announcement every three songs or so would be one thing, but every few minutes is extremely irritating. Why not just list the songs on your website?
Posted by: malone | October 29, 2005 at 09:05 AM
I also find the robot voice announcements irritating but hope the new human announcements will be more tolerable... it will depend who they get to do them I suppose! Malone the songs are already listed on the website but I gather some people listening did not even realise where the songs were coming from. I had suggested in the forum that if you have purchased an album in the last week you should be able to listen to other albums free from the annoying interuptions - but do not know how practical this would be to implement. The idea being that everyone is encouraged to support the concept by buying at least one album a week...
Posted by: Geoff | October 29, 2005 at 05:44 PM
Perhaps the announcement could be made at a lower volume at the beginning instead, and only for tracks longer than 3 minutes. Right now, shouted at the end of a piece (like a lute interlude) it destroys the musical mood entirely.
Try to have a category "Paying Subscriber" or "Frequent Buyer" that is announcement-free. Speaking of which, any news on the shopping cart/frequent buyer/multi-pack Big Ideas? (I hate small charges on my CC or PayPal.)
Maybe you can kill two birds with one stone...
Posted by: William Chang | November 01, 2005 at 11:01 AM
"Perhaps the announcement could be made at a lower volume at the beginning instead, and only for tracks longer than 3 minutes. Right now, shouted at the end of a piece (like a lute interlude) it destroys the musical mood entirely."
I did change the announcement voice so that for classical music, the voice is at 50% volume. You should be hearing that now. For the other genres, I did lower the volume to 80%, as well.
"Try to have a category "Paying Subscriber" or "Frequent Buyer" that is announcement-free. "
A number of people have suggested that, and I like the idea. I need to think about how to implement it. I'm thinking perhaps of giving buyers a cookie where they get a month of dj-free listening after a purchase.
"Speaking of which, any news on the shopping cart/frequent buyer/multi-pack Big Ideas? (I hate small charges on my CC or PayPal.)"
the multipack is definitely coming soon...
-john
Posted by: John Buckman | November 02, 2005 at 05:05 AM
I think it would be useful to have optional accounts and cookies in general. One feature I'd really like that depends on that is being able to look at what I've been listening to a lot or recently. There was a while that I had "Possible New House" stuck in my head and had no clue what it was. I also have the distressing habit of forgetting what I want whenever I decide it's time to buy something, and I have to spend a while listening to things to figure it out. It's also awkward because I tend to listen from work and prefer to buy from home.
Posted by: Daniel Barkalow | November 03, 2005 at 11:01 AM
Perhaps using the username and password purchasers recieve when they buy something might allow for people to move round different computers (rather than cookies).
Posted by: Tim Harris | November 04, 2005 at 11:50 AM
I have to admit that this is the kick-in-the-butt I've needed to buy some of my favorite Magnatunes.
That said, as you tweak announcer-voicey, consider dropping it in at an interval consistent with Magna radio, which seems to be every 10 minutes or so. F'rinstance, right now I'm listening to D. Ben Peinaar playing the Well-Tempered Klavier. I don't need to hear the robot after every 2-minute track. I would think you could safely drop it in every 4-5 tracks and people would still get the hint hint.
After all, even if they don't buy right away, you're getting your brand mentioned five or six times an hour. Commercial radio doesn't do any better than that!
Posted by: Aaron | November 05, 2005 at 07:57 AM
I think the voiceover is very unobtrusive, all things considered. I kinda liked the old artist advertisments though. Doesn't solve the problem of not knowing what you've just heard though...
Posted by: Eric Redlinger | November 07, 2005 at 08:12 AM
I've bought a ridiculous amount of albums from Magnatune in the past three months; I've also listened to a ridiculous amount of albums streamed... I wasn't keeping up with your blog, and was mighty surprised one day when the voice came on. Of course, I'd TOTALLY be ALL for humans announcing tracks.. especially if it was different artists--that would be frickn awesome! :D
Posted by: Ryan Sawhill | November 07, 2005 at 07:41 PM
Love the computer voice! She's a celebrity around the office. Very pleasant. Please don't change it. She is a great improvement over the terrible "commercials" for Magnatune... like the horrific "cheetah lady" or the equally bad warbling "MagnatuuUUUuuuuuuUUUuuune.com gal."
Posted by: Eric | November 09, 2005 at 12:23 PM
Quick fix idea: replace the "from magnatune.com" part of the computer speech by human versions. Perhaps record one male and one female and use either one randomly. That would give us a taste of how nice all-human announcements will be!
Posted by: Chris W | November 12, 2005 at 11:55 AM
Hey,
Why not give your artists the chance to announce their own tracks? Since just about all of your artists have some decent home studio equipment, it'd be a cinch for all of them to record a 10-30 second intro for each track, including the Magnatune info, the track name and whatever else they care to say.
It's great variety, a communal/creative solution, and allows those artists who care to to show their support for the label.
Cheers,
Justin
Posted by: Justin Marrington | November 16, 2005 at 07:39 PM
Agreed. I think that it would be really neat if you could coax most of the artists into voicing some of these things. Not only would is sound better than speech synthesis, but it would increase the interaction between the artist and the listener. I'd suspect that more people are willing to pay for music with a bit more "life" behind the announcement. I've always noticed that the few artists that do these sorts of things over the MP3 streams (Beth Quist comes to mind) sell a lot more music than the other artists.
Posted by: zborgerd | November 20, 2005 at 09:51 AM